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Post by Ari on Apr 20, 2009 10:40:11 GMT
I could be able to make some bonus levels. However, my QuArK isn't cooperating right now.
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Post by Mkbul on Apr 20, 2009 10:57:20 GMT
I could be able to make some bonus levels. However, my QuArK isn't cooperating right now. Ahem, he meant anymore votes on suggs
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Post by technostick on Apr 20, 2009 12:07:00 GMT
Here are my opinions (not including suggestions on which I am indifferent):
AGAINST
Separate high scores for each marble size, plus a few more sizes (something in between regular and small marble 1 and something larger than big marble 3). A display of how large/small the marble is compared to the default marble (like 1.5x). Compare high scores between different marbles.
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An option to turn on/off a checker that will check if you have all interiors for a level being loaded.
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A skybox changer. Possibly you could select the mode, and then select the skybox you want to go with it. TO ADD: have more skyboxes, plus custom made ones.
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Game = "Platinum"; or Game = "Gold"; if Game isn't specified, then: Game = "Platinum";
If: Game = "Gold"; , all scripts and sound files will direct to their MBG Powerups and Sounds equilavent.
This would also affect the PlayGUI and Scoreboard, achieveing 100% MBG for MBG levels. Unknown effect for Leaderboards.
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The game needs to store (offline) top 5 scores instead of 3.
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Automatic Demo Recording - A recording is automaticalyl made under some name and when the player finishes the level, he can press a button to save the recording (under a new name of course, else it's overwritten). Reload button so that level reloads and the player can restart the demo without having to go through a huge process.
Note: Please expand such system so that the .rec doesn't screw up, for example you can't restart during a demo recording session, so if the player restarts he should be notified the the .rec file will not be saved/work and he has to reload the level. Perhaps add a 'reload' button to the 'ESC' menu as well?
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A "levels not completed" feature that show which levels the player did not finish. (um, might overload customs)
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Ability to play custom levels (non-online purposes) on the leaderboards (they give no rating of course) so that you can talk to other players.
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Add scores (to show) how much each achievement is worth on the achievements page on LBs.
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Gem Radar (the arrows like in MBU/O)
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Post by Mkbul on Apr 20, 2009 18:12:12 GMT
I have a suggestion, wha about displaying the milliseconds on our records and end image?
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Post by thoran on Apr 20, 2009 19:00:05 GMT
Much as i have no power over you Techno i think i am right in saying Matan would also like reasons of your opinions i could be wrong but that is not a regular occurance Also, i would Vote FOR on Mkbul's suggestions could it be done on LB's also?
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Post by PHAIL maan on Apr 20, 2009 21:30:23 GMT
I have a suggestion, wha about displaying the milliseconds on our records and end image? I'm for this, I like added precision and it also helps to distinguish between a.bcd and a.bce values.
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Post by marblefire on Apr 20, 2009 23:15:02 GMT
Time for my long post! Like the others, I'm only commenting on the suggestions that I have an opinion on. Separate high scores for each marble size, plus a few more sizes (something in between regular and small marble 1 and something larger than big marble 3). A display of how large/small the marble is compared to the default marble (like 1.5x). Compare high scores between different marbles. Approved on all 3 counts. Also, my favorite size for a marble is that of Phil's Watermelon (in between the GG and regular marbles). An option to turn on/off a checker that will check if you have all interiors for a level being loaded. If you have all CLA and are careful in copying level-specific interiors, you shouldn't need to worry. If one was left out in the download, you'll only need to take a second to figure it out in-game. Not approved. A skybox changer. Possibly you could select the mode, and then select the skybox you want to go with it. TO ADD: have more skyboxes, plus custom made ones. Three words: yes, yes, yes. Timer that shows how much Time Travel Bonus you have left An interesting idea, but completely unnecessary. A better "GUIed" level editor. A level editor with buttons and a walkthrough. Ideally, this would be great, an LE equivalent for the menu Manual perhaps. Sounds like quite a bit of work, though. Expand the options menu to 'Gameplay' header where you can modify game values automatically. Options can be included for; Default Gravity Jumping Rebound Recoil Friction Diagonal speed = Forward Speed (so diagonal is the same as forwards) Other characteristics Everything can be changed with a few sliders, buttons and maybe number inputs. Have a 'Default' option so that players can play on the Leaderboards. If values not at default, they can't access LBs. I wouldn't use it, but it could be fun for other people. The game needs to store (offline) top 5 scores instead of 3. I'm fine with three. I'd suggest you guys reject this. Automatic Demo Recording - A recording is automaticalyl made under some name and when the player finishes the level, he can press a button to save the recording (under a new name of course, else it's overwritten). Reload button so that level reloads and the player can restart the demo without having to go through a huge process. Note: Please expand such system so that the .rec doesn't screw up, for example you can't restart during a demo recording session, so if the player restarts he should be notified the the .rec file will not be saved/work and he has to reload the level. Perhaps add a 'reload' button to the 'ESC' menu as well? 1. If so, make it an option. 2. The reload button sounds like a nice suggestion if you go ahead with this. Also, ideally, maybe it will be possible to program the .rec file to erase and restart when the player restarts. Last 25 levels played feature in the search feature so that "you can find that one you randomly clicked". On the LBs or offline? I think this would be useful on both. Maybe make the number amount an option as well? Platinum/Ultimate tags showing on the Leaderboards next to the times like they do in Singleplayer, if possible. Possible on general or just personal? On general it would be interesting to have a "P" or "U" tag, maybe just a single picture with a single letter in the P/U colors? Color tags are a nice idea, but I don't feel the need for P/U. A "levels not completed" feature that show which levels the player did not finish. (um, might overload customs) Unnecessary. On the LBs, you can just look at the personal score section beneath the level menu, and offline, it's just as obvious. Levels released feature (like TotDay) that shows level name/author and a download link to it on PhilsEmpire server. Works on mac if they're able to do an interior test. Are we talking about accessing the forums' monthly released levels list? If so, sounds good. A button that disables the qualify and par times of all levels. Does not work on Leaderboards? Not approved. Just get skilled and learn to beat the levels. Ability to play custom levels (non-online purposes) on the leaderboards (they give no rating of course) so that you can talk to other players. I'm fine with the current setup. Add leaderboard achievements to offline (first four pages) Maybe for Mac 1.13 (unless 1.12 already has that), but I don't see the point for Windows. If you're going for an achievement, why wouldn't you be online for the points? If you want to see your achievements without logging in to the LBs, I suppose this could be a good idea, but it's not really necessary. Definitely! Add scores (to show) how much each achievement is worth on the achievements page on LBs. Approved! √ Gem Radar (the arrows like in MBU/O) Unnecessary and annoying, especially in levels that have a number of gems concentrated in one area. Bonus levels for completing achievements Eg. you unlock a hidden level for getting 60 EEs, another level after getting all 120 EEs. Maybe after getting a sub minute on Theif you unlock a hidden sequel. After beating BF's UT you unlock a hidden extra Battlecube level. After getting over 10mil points in the LBs you unlock another level etc. Sounds tantalizing. Frictionprefs.cs SEPARATE from LBs so that players can make custom frictions. Although the frictions run the gamut from really slippery to really rough, I think this is still a good idea for developers like Oaky and HiGuy.
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Post by technostick on Apr 21, 2009 11:16:05 GMT
Why not put the custom friction code in the .mis?
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Post by Pablo on Apr 21, 2009 11:28:57 GMT
Why not put the custom friction code in the .mis? Would be great, but I suspect it's not possible to direct the game to look in two places for friction codes.
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Post by technostick on Apr 21, 2009 11:50:25 GMT
If you put friction code in a .mis the game will read it as well as any friction code anywhere else. I mean that it is not necessary to create yet another file for custom frictions to be installed.
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Post by CheepFishMBP on Apr 22, 2009 2:19:55 GMT
Approved.
Approved, if you don't know the level's interiors.
Approved, if you get bored of the skyboxes.
Approved, if you lose track of the time bonus.
Approved, if you don't know how to make levels.
I think approved.
Approved.
Ok, approved.
Approved.
Approved.
Approved.
Approved.
Approved.
Not approved.
Approved.
Not approved, if it's too easy to finish a level with no par times.
Approved.
Approved, if you can't go online or don't have an account.
Approved.
Approved.
Approved, but only if arrows don't drive you crazy.
Approved.
Half-approved.
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Post by Sporlo on Apr 22, 2009 3:34:23 GMT
Separate high scores for each marble size, plus a few more sizes (something in between regular and small marble 1 and something larger than big marble 3). A display of how large/small the marble is compared to the default marble (like 1.5x). Compare high scores between different marbles.+100000000000000 But honestly, I don't see the point in more marble sizes. I don't find any use for marbles between mid-big and mid-small. I just use the standard+tiny+huge. ----------------------------------------------- An option to turn on/off a checker that will check if you have all interiors for a level being loaded.+1 This doesn't apply to me as much, because I don't play many custom levels, but I think this will be very helpful for when I first play one, because I may have forgotten an interior update. ----------------------------------------------- A skybox changer. Possibly you could select the mode, and then select the skybox you want to go with it. TO ADD: have more skyboxes, plus custom made ones.+10 This would really freshen up the gameplay. It would also make you more AWARE of the sky, not just a boring background that gets burned into your brain, never changing. Makes it more fun. ----------------------------------------------- Timer that shows how much Time Travel Bonus you have leftI think the extra timer would be distracting and somewhat unnecessary. Perhaps aural stimulus could be implemented instead of visual, such as a faster sound effect as time gets less, or a different one, etc. etc. ----------------------------------------------- A better "GUIed" level editor. A level editor with buttons and a walkthrough.+1 Walkthrough unnecessary, and should only be implemented if it's both thorough and easy to understand. ----------------------------------------------- A LEPrefs.cs that can remember all values set by the user (starts default, but is modifyable).+1 Not important, but good for convenience. ----------------------------------------------- Game = "Platinum"; or Game = "Gold"; if Game isn't specified, then: Game = "Platinum";
If: Game = "Gold"; , all scripts and sound files will direct to their MBG Powerups and Sounds equilavent.
This would also affect the PlayGUI and Scoreboard, achieveing 100% MBG for MBG levels. Unknown effect for Leaderboards.+573 This would be really cool. ----------------------------------------------- Expand the options menu to 'Gameplay' header where you can modify game values automatically. Options can be included for; Default Gravity Jumping Rebound Recoil Friction Diagonal speed = Forward Speed (so diagonal is the same as forwards) Other characteristics
Everything can be changed with a few sliders, buttons and maybe number inputs.
Have a 'Default' option so that players can play on the Leaderboards. If values not at default, they can't access LBs.+9999999999999999999999 Is this 'Default' option a RESET option that makes it back to normal? Just trying to clear things up. And whatever happened to the alternate version of this, the Features one? Only removing TMs and gems would be practical, but still worth it. ----------------------------------------------- The game needs to store (offline) top 5 scores instead of 3.+1 It makes each run you do worth that much more. It's more satisfying if you're able to get a NEW time. ----------------------------------------------- Automatic Demo Recording - A recording is automaticalyl made under some name and when the player finishes the level, he can press a button to save the recording (under a new name of course, else it's overwritten). Reload button so that level reloads and the player can restart the demo without having to go through a huge process.
Note: Please expand such system so that the .rec doesn't screw up, for example you can't restart during a demo recording session, so if the player restarts he should be notified the the .rec file will not be saved/work and he has to reload the level. Perhaps add a 'reload' button to the 'ESC' menu as well?+1 Very helpful. But especially the option to have it reload the level for you. ----------------------------------------------- Last 25 levels played feature in the search feature so that "you can find that one you randomly clicked".+1 Great way to (as mentioned above) freshen up your level selection. ----------------------------------------------- - A "Restart from Last Checkpoint" button. (AllowLastChkpt = "1"; (Rolling to Eternity and other levels can be cheated this way using TMs))+1 Useful. ----------------------------------------------- Platinum/Ultimate tags showing on the Leaderboards next to the times like they do in Singleplayer, if possible. Possible on general or just personal? On general it would be interesting to have a "P" or "U" tag, maybe just a single picture with a single letter in the P/U colors?+1 Even though I can't do MP, it causes consistency throughout the game, and that's good for anything. ----------------------------------------------- A "levels not completed" feature that show which levels the player did not finish. (um, might overload customs)-1 No practical use. ----------------------------------------------- Levels released feature (like TotDay) that shows level name/author and a download link to it on PhilsEmpire server. Works on mac if they're able to do an interior test.+1 Cool. ----------------------------------------------- A button that disables the qualify and par times of all levels. Does not work on Leaderboards?-1 Those times were entered there for a reason. ----------------------------------------------- Ability to play custom levels (non-online purposes) on the leaderboards (they give no rating of course) so that you can talk to other players.+1 cool feature ----------------------------------------------- Add leaderboard achievements to offline (first four pages)+1 For Motivation! ----------------------------------------------- Add scores (to show) how much each achievement is worth on the achievements page on LBs.+-0 Not needed. It'd only be for people who want to get all the points they possibly can... (hmmm... maybe that'd qualify most of you ) ----------------------------------------------- Gem Radar (the arrows like in MBU/O)-999999999 There're tons of levels out there that are BASED on the fact that there's no gem radar. Besides, you can use the LE to find gems (is that even possible on official levels in Windows MBP?). No radar makes it FUN. Like in Red Steel. There's no map. You have to learn it yourself and only then can you screen cheat. ----------------------------------------------- Bonus levels for completing achievements
Eg. you unlock a hidden level for getting 60 EEs, another level after getting all 120 EEs. Maybe after getting a sub minute on Theif you unlock a hidden sequel. After beating BF's UT you unlock a hidden extra Battlecube level. After getting over 10mil points in the LBs you unlock another level etc. +1 Motivation is always good. ----------------------------------------------- Frictionprefs.cs SEPARATE from LBs so that players can make custom frictions.+92734598263458 I was so disappointed to find that custom frictions were discarded for MBP! -----------------------------------------------
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Post by Xelna on Apr 22, 2009 5:10:08 GMT
What about : In the achievements screen, you could put the Total Time for MBP & MBG separate difficulties.
Like : MBG Beginner Total = XX.XX.XXX and if the didn't complete all of the levels in that section, specifiy how many levels he has done out of 24, or out of 52 for MBG. Apply that for Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced... would be cool.
And same with MBP...
Just an idea I'd like so much...
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Post by PHAIL maan on Apr 22, 2009 6:34:31 GMT
- A "Restart from Last Checkpoint" button. (AllowLastChkpt = "1"; (Rolling to Eternity and other levels can be cheated this way using TMs))-1 As someone mentioned earlier, it takes the skill out of the game. With this, you could just work on ONE section over and over so that you'd EVENTUALLY beat it, but it doesn't show your true skill because you'd end up with a still good time. How is this different from going OOB after a checkpoint, except that you respawn a few seconds faster? That would improve the time, but not as much as what you seem to be implying.
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Post by technostick on Apr 22, 2009 9:04:44 GMT
There are levels (particularly custom) in which one can get stuck with no way to continue or to go OOB.
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Post by Mkbul on Apr 22, 2009 18:15:12 GMT
Rofl, who named the topic like this
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Post by thoran on Apr 22, 2009 18:22:32 GMT
Lol, well i called it that to everybody who i linked it to when new suggestions were out, i assume matan but i am taking credit for the name
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Post by Sporlo on Apr 22, 2009 18:37:15 GMT
- A "Restart from Last Checkpoint" button. (AllowLastChkpt = "1"; (Rolling to Eternity and other levels can be cheated this way using TMs))-1 As someone mentioned earlier, it takes the skill out of the game. With this, you could just work on ONE section over and over so that you'd EVENTUALLY beat it, but it doesn't show your true skill because you'd end up with a still good time. How is this different from going OOB after a checkpoint, except that you respawn a few seconds faster? That would improve the time, but not as much as what you seem to be implying. Wow, sorry, epic fail on my part. For some reason, I was writing that as if it was a suggestion saying that the TIME would restart after respawning at a checkpoint. But now, thinking about it, I support AllowLastChkpt. +1 I'm not sure that I was entirely grasping the concept and what EXACTLY the implementation would entail.
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Post by Mkbul on Apr 22, 2009 18:55:02 GMT
Umm...NO...NO!
But if we have an option to allow/disallow it?
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Post by Sporlo on Apr 22, 2009 19:10:44 GMT
I know we have enough suggestions already, but I want to post them here so I don't have to try to remember them for the future.
Sequential Gems This could work a couple of different ways. Each gem could have a field called collectOrder or something like that, and you'd input 1-99, which makes you unable to collect gems not next in the sequence. It'd add some variety to level strategies. If GemRadar is ever implemented, it could most effectively be applied to this concept. That way there's only one arrow at all times. Also, you could somehow code to make all gems, except the one supposed to be collected next, invisible, so that after you collect the one gem, the next one is plotted. I believe (not know) this is possible, as how else do you guys get the gems to respawn after a checkpoint spawn? Obviously, without the GemRadar or the invisible gems, a sequential gem order might not be as practical because it'd be hard to tell what gem you need next other than the logical level flow. An idea to HELP solve this is sequential GROUPS. So if many gems are near each other, you could label all their collectOrders to equal the same number, so it didn't matter which OF THAT GROUP that you collected first.
More Comments on the Checkpoint This is a little late, as, well, the game is already released and widespread, not to mention a level's best path is based off it, but I always thought that Time Modifier's modifications should be reversed after a Checkpoint spawn. The TMs that you had collected would stay gone, but wouldn't it be more consistent if your BONUS time was reset just like your powerups/gems? Also, only the bonus time that you collected AFTER the last checkpoint would be reset. If I got a 5 sec TM, then went OOB, the time would stay the same as always, but then if I got another 5 sec TM before reaching the next checkpoint, I think THAT 5 secs should be reset (your previous 5 would stay).
Does anyone support any of that? General comments?
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Post by Pablo on Apr 22, 2009 19:16:26 GMT
I'll take credit for the rename. IMO, Gem Radar is never necessary in MBP. Spy has better stuff to work on.
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Post by PHAIL maan on Apr 22, 2009 20:25:43 GMT
But if we have an option to allow/disallow it? I think a lot of these suggestions are optional in that they can be turned on/off. I know we have enough suggestions already, but I want to post them here so I don't have to try to remember them for the future. Sequential GemsThis could work a couple of different ways. Each gem could have a field called collectOrder or something like that, and you'd input 1-99, which makes you unable to collect gems not next in the sequence. It'd add some variety to level strategies. If GemRadar is ever implemented, it could most effectively be applied to this concept. That way there's only one arrow at all times. Also, you could somehow code to make all gems, except the one supposed to be collected next, invisible, so that after you collect the one gem, the next one is plotted. I believe (not know) this is possible, as how else do you guys get the gems to respawn after a checkpoint spawn? Obviously, without the GemRadar or the invisible gems, a sequential gem order might not be as practical because it'd be hard to tell what gem you need next other than the logical level flow. An idea to HELP solve this is sequential GROUPS. So if many gems are near each other, you could label all their collectOrders to equal the same number, so it didn't matter which OF THAT GROUP that you collected first. Very interesting idea, I like it. A variant of this idea would be that ONLY the next gem (or a set of gems, like "3, 5, 13") would be invisible, although I don't think it's as practical as yours.
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Post by Oaky on Apr 22, 2009 21:09:00 GMT
LOL go Pablo for the name
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Post by Pablo on Apr 22, 2009 21:13:57 GMT
Well it is
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Post by IsraeliRD on Apr 22, 2009 21:50:20 GMT
Leave implementation to us
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Post by thoran on Apr 22, 2009 21:51:04 GMT
I'd like to start by saying i can't believe you are claiming credit for the Rename Pablo.. especially after i kept saying it to you also... since things have to get votes now For, it is a clever idea and i have no reason to say no.... I hate to deny them, but i don't really understand this a littler more clarification would be nice the current explanation seems a little higgeldy piggeldy to me NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED LATER Sounds good , this makes comparison more easy... along with this, would it be possible to see this in people's status section in the LB's : or maybe even a seperate total LB's section that we could somehow implement via clicking the gold you could see, also can we see overall time and levels played in general ranks would be nice to see, maybe.. it is up to you guys.. just hold your vote with or against my ideas i just throw my ideas out without actually reviewing myself.. i'm not sure if this is good but you might like and we are a community so if you are reading this.. vote because YOU make the difference
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Post by Spy47 on Apr 23, 2009 4:29:48 GMT
i can't believe you are claiming credit for the Rename Pablo..
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Post by marblefire on Apr 23, 2009 4:58:11 GMT
Sequential GemsThis could work a couple of different ways. Each gem could have a field called collectOrder or something like that, and you'd input 1-99, which makes you unable to collect gems not next in the sequence. It'd add some variety to level strategies. If GemRadar is ever implemented, it could most effectively be applied to this concept. That way there's only one arrow at all times. Also, you could somehow code to make all gems, except the one supposed to be collected next, invisible, so that after you collect the one gem, the next one is plotted. This is an interesting idea, but I don't really see it as being useful. It may even be counterproductive. If you hide all the gems, players will not be able to plan a route, and pathfinding levels obviously can't use this. Heck, doing an alternate, non-standard route on any given level would be impossible. The GemRadar doesn't seem necessary either, unless the gems are spaced in long intervals from each other. Thoran, focus on this: More Comments on the CheckpointThis is a little late, as, well, the game is already released and widespread, not to mention a level's best path is based off it, but I always thought that Time Modifier's modifications should be reversed after a Checkpoint spawn. In find this to be a fun sort of "glitch," and taking it away would remove one of the game's neatest tricks. It can also be a time saver in numerous other levels as well. Not approved.
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Post by Xelna on Apr 23, 2009 5:31:08 GMT
Thoran : Thanks for backing me for the Total Times idea Anyone else who would like that? And for Gem Radar, wouldn't it be like... a bit copying MBU if we program one? Idk...
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Post by IsraeliRD on Apr 23, 2009 8:00:34 GMT
i can't believe you are claiming credit for the Rename Pablo..
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