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Post by ProMarbler on Nov 11, 2013 11:05:37 GMT
I still go to school on Monday, not sure about that. And with Matan's timezone, who knows?
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Post by ENlGMA on Nov 11, 2013 15:05:27 GMT
I still go to school on Monday, not sure about that. And with Matan's timezone, who knows? I didn't. (Veterans Day *hint hint hint*) With Matan's timezone, well, that's another story.
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 11, 2013 16:11:25 GMT
I have to admit, I like the prospect of a spectator mode. I really don't know how the technical aspects work, but will the jagged movement of the opposing marbles eventually be smoothed out? We already have anti-lag code to help aid the lag. However, when a connection host lives in Australia and expects people from the East coast of the US to connect to him, packet loss and lag become our friends. Not much more we can do, we already are interpolating the positions with 2-3 algorithms. Much more will just cause the game to lag and take more processing power, as well as a complete waste as not much more can be done than what we already have. Good point, but why can't you just simulate the marble when there is no information coming in from the other players? Just take the velocity and simulate it until another signal from the player comes in. That way it'll look way more realistic, I think. If your connection would stop suddenly, all the marbles would just roll around until they stop, because they are being simulated. I think that's how they did it in MBO.
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Post by ENlGMA on Nov 11, 2013 19:29:17 GMT
MBO was the shader engine, also in your web browser, so like a direct direct connect, so in the essence, it was smoother. This is just the Torque. And that would be misleading anyways...
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 11, 2013 19:43:12 GMT
There should be some magic team that transforms MBP into the Torque Engine.
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Post by Jeff on Nov 11, 2013 19:54:23 GMT
Good point, but why can't you just simulate the marble when there is no information coming in from the other players? Just take the velocity and simulate it until another signal from the player comes in. That way it'll look way more realistic, I think. If your connection would stop suddenly, all the marbles would just roll around until they stop, because they are being simulated. I think that's how they did it in MBO. We already did that. Blame the engine. Trust me I know how interpolation/exterpolation works, especially how the torque engine handles it. We did adjust it before and it made it look worse so we chose which values looked best, and what you saw works the best performance and rendering wise.
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Post by ProMarbler on Nov 11, 2013 21:55:59 GMT
Hmm... But does "open beta" mean "public beta"?
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Post by Daniel741852 on Nov 11, 2013 22:07:20 GMT
Yes lol, closed beta would mean ONLY the chosen may get and test MBP 1.50
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Post by ProMarbler on Nov 11, 2013 22:17:12 GMT
I thought open beta was when they were accepting new beta testers, like in MBF?
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Post by RadiantVibe on Nov 11, 2013 23:16:10 GMT
Open beta: The last stage of game development where the game is open to every player for a final test to the game and to resolve any issues that people may find.
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Post by Pyro on Nov 11, 2013 23:28:55 GMT
The time is drawing closer, can't wait for tomorrow!
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Post by IsraeliRD on Nov 11, 2013 23:42:58 GMT
Tomorrow is overrated.
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Post by - rollcage (¬‿¬) - on Nov 12, 2013 0:00:51 GMT
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Post by ENlGMA on Nov 12, 2013 0:58:03 GMT
I thought open beta was when they were accepting new beta testers, like in MBF? That's still closed beta. Open beta is public, usually.
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Post by RadiantVibe on Nov 12, 2013 1:10:30 GMT
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Post by Jeff on Nov 12, 2013 1:54:22 GMT
You people get worked up over nothing geez. Quit getting ahead of YERSELVEZ Tomorrow is way overrated
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Post by ProMarbler on Nov 12, 2013 2:12:22 GMT
Anyways guys expect good news in a couple of days, as Matan has hinted a date already Maybe Matan is suggesting next Tuesday, as opposed to this one. He said "Tuesday", not "tomorrow". So still within about a week.
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Post by RadiantVibe on Nov 12, 2013 2:19:42 GMT
Don't even think that for one second promarbler. I believe.
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 12, 2013 13:22:52 GMT
Guys, there just messing with us.
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Post by ENlGMA on Nov 12, 2013 13:35:36 GMT
Guys, there just messing with us. Did you even read the beta announcement?
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 12, 2013 18:18:01 GMT
Guys, there just messing with us. Did you even read the beta announcement? Of course I did But they say it wont be on tuesday, why the hell then did they say tuesdtay?
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Post by Andrew on Nov 12, 2013 18:31:23 GMT
Did you even read the beta announcement? Of course I did But they say it wont be on tuesday, why the hell then did they say tuesdtay? How about you tell us on what day of the week the announcement about the beta was posted? I'm sure you can figure it out from there.
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Post by Aayrl on Nov 12, 2013 22:28:37 GMT
I thought open beta was when they were accepting new beta testers, like in MBF? MBF is in it's "Public Beta" phase, i.e. we select a handful of users from the public to help test gameplay during the home stretch of development. "Open Beta" would refer to a release candidate of the client program available to any user that requests entry to the open beta program. ~Aayrl
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 13, 2013 15:25:04 GMT
Of course I did But they say it wont be on tuesday, why the hell then did they say tuesdtay? How about you tell us on what day of the week the announcement about the beta was posted? I'm sure you can figure it out from there. Last week, thursday bro!
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Post by ENlGMA on Nov 13, 2013 21:59:08 GMT
So yesterday was Thursday of last week?
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Post by Jeff on Nov 13, 2013 22:30:47 GMT
What are you people talking about I don't even
How about we have a discussion that PERTAINS to THIS topic. If you don't realize that we didn't announce a date, cork it.
Now to answer questions for those who are still confused after they were already answered too many times:
Public beta means everybody. (Excluding dragons, sorry Matan) MBP marble movement is awesome, and if you don't like it, why don't you show me how I should do it then in a PM.
But ya if you have an issue, please by all means tell me how to correct it when we are already probably doing what your saying.
A little reading can go a long ways! c:
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Post by Frozen Marble on Nov 14, 2013 17:52:28 GMT
And with Multiplayer, people can do funny movies like you did before with MBO. Am I right?
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 19, 2013 19:05:05 GMT
And with Multiplayer, people can do funny movies like you did before with MBO. Am I right? You mean stuff like Mega Marble Wars? I just loved those. I don't know if this new "multiplayer-engine" is made for that.
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Post by ENlGMA on Nov 19, 2013 21:48:46 GMT
And with Multiplayer, people can do funny movies like you did before with MBO. Am I right? You mean stuff like Mega Marble Wars? I just loved those. I don't know if this new "multiplayer-engine" is made for that. It's still the Torque...
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Post by davidskanal on Nov 20, 2013 18:37:11 GMT
The "great" Torque...
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