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Post by Jeff on Nov 8, 2011 3:08:19 GMT
Today, i was pretty upset with one of our peers. Even though he was on the forum, and deleted himself for being underage, I will still bring the forums attension to this. Lamp47, co founder of mbelite, has been believed to steal Multiple codes from me and Higuy that are in Project Revoultion. However, I do not want this issue to influence your view point on mbelite. Even though Lamp47 can't code, Mason and Mystery Man have done an outstanding job as keeping the mod alive to working on it. (and gerson, you too). I am mighty impressed with a few things on it, but so disappointed that Lamp47 stole. Also, be sure to check the new news for PR .
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Post by Tech Warrior on Nov 8, 2011 3:23:18 GMT
Must be disappointing. Sorry Jeff . It didn't appeal to me that Lamp was the type of person.
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Post by Pablo on Nov 8, 2011 5:57:02 GMT
Was he part of the PR staff, then stole codes? Or was it Elite? And is he fired now?
I have low expectations for both, so this doesn't affect them.
Also, it's "thief"--like the MBP level.
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Post by NaCl586 on Nov 8, 2011 10:48:04 GMT
Like I've said for you and Nihahhat at MSN: Gerson Says: Randall the code robber Nihahhat Says : perfect name Also after that Jeff when Lamp wants me to let him code on MBAdventure, Mason arleady prevent me to do that. Btw he said: Nihahhat : see why i didnt want him to join mbad? You should fire him now, if he wants to make level for PR, i recommend to not giving the DB to him, he just need to send the level through any staff before it reach the folder and the game. This also the next generation of beack (sorry). Nihahhat also said Lamp47 made a lot of failed levels. He might be BlackList-ed from any mods. btw jeff : I stop making levels until the "curse" is broken. but now that was arleady broken. Sorry if this considered as a spam or reveal the secret jeff.
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Post by ktbold12345 on Nov 8, 2011 12:24:28 GMT
Nihatthat told me about this too. I think that procautions should be taken so we don't have the next Robot Marble/BlazerYo/Beack scenario again.
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Post by Explode on Nov 8, 2011 12:51:44 GMT
Just wondering what did he steal?
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Post by ktbold12345 on Nov 8, 2011 12:53:09 GMT
Just wondering what did he steal? Codes from PR: which will be revealed to you when the game is released.
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Post by Explode on Nov 8, 2011 12:55:04 GMT
No I mean which codes. I've seen him playing the game, I was wondering what specific code? If any were confirmed.
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Post by Jeff on Nov 8, 2011 15:38:18 GMT
He stole some TCP objects from GG forums (not mine) He stole some MP things from GG too, according to Nihahhat (not mine). He stole my demo replay center that is in PR (spoiler) He "supposibly" stole PR's gem radar (spoiler) I believe he stole another thing, but only God knows that and himself. PS.
@pablo, wow, i can't believe how much I suck at spelling.
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Post by Tech Warrior on Nov 8, 2011 15:40:15 GMT
This conversation is beginning to sound very one-sided... I mean, where's the proof? All we for the matter know is that Jeff said Lamp stole codes. But, in a serious matter such as this, wouldn't we need some kind of inevitable proof that it is true? What if there was a mistake? What if something happened in the process that would make Lamp do so? All I know is that when the issue arose that Beack stole codes, all the proof was right there! We could actually see that Beack had stolen, and then he fessed up and that was that. I'm not at all saying that you're wrong Jeff, because I'm sure you're not! I just think it would feel a little safer if we did have some kind of proof, in case there was any kind of confusion or misunderstanding in the process. And I'm not saying show us the codes, but you're Jeff; you'll figure out something .
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Post by Jeff on Nov 8, 2011 15:41:06 GMT
@tech, i compared the codes, even the variable names were the same with the same namespaces
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Post by Pablo on Nov 8, 2011 18:20:52 GMT
Who's Mason?
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Post by Tech Warrior on Nov 8, 2011 19:11:47 GMT
Nihahhat. But you know Jeff, calling everyone but me by their real name.
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Post by Jeff on Nov 8, 2011 21:23:49 GMT
Sorry pablo, i have a tendency to do that.
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Post by Hi Guy on Nov 8, 2011 23:36:15 GMT
Oh you. Also, replay center stolen? Also, leak much?
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Post by Jeff on Nov 8, 2011 23:42:45 GMT
I figured u would say that higuy, and yes, its stolen.
Your too late bud, I already fired him, I am tired of this.
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Post by Hi Guy on Nov 8, 2011 23:45:17 GMT
Well, seeing as how we kicked him out of the DB about a month ago...
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Post by Jeff on Nov 8, 2011 23:46:05 GMT
opps, i forgot Higuy, hehe. Oh well, we never broke the ice to him before, well, its over now.
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Post by Hi Guy on Nov 8, 2011 23:47:25 GMT
I like how that's a face...
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Post by ktbold12345 on Nov 9, 2011 0:04:55 GMT
Yay, Jeff the leak master is in the project!!! Information!!!! The cryptic-sounding answer I gave Explode was because I wanted her to wait to see the new features until they are released. I wanted to avoid spoilers. But guess that didn't happen, did it?
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Post by Jeff on Nov 9, 2011 1:56:00 GMT
no, cause sometimes you just have to let it leak so you dont hear the end of it.
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Post by ktbold12345 on Nov 9, 2011 13:30:58 GMT
Ok, you're the leader.
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Post by Hi Guy on Nov 10, 2011 0:52:11 GMT
no, cause sometimes you just have to let it leak so you dont hear the end of it. Um.................... how do i respond to this...
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Post by IsraeliRD on Nov 10, 2011 0:59:18 GMT
With the hopes that Jeff learns to think about what he types (or read what he types) so that his posts aren't taken out of context by you?
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Post by Jeff on Nov 10, 2011 1:50:08 GMT
whatever whatever guys lamps gone anyways, so who cares
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Post by Aayrl on Nov 10, 2011 18:27:17 GMT
At first I thought this was a thread about an actual thief. You're talking about someone who looked at your code, copy/pasted it, and decided to work on his own version? Last I checked, copying code (unless declared in the commented section of the code) isn't 'illegal' and certainly doesn't entail the 'culprit' as a 'thief'. Besides, if he 'copied' your code, wouldn't the commented section at the top state that you, Jeff, are the creator of the code, and therefore it was not 'stolen', but given proper credit to the author? If you failed to put your name at the top of the code, then was it really 'stolen'? Suppose he deletes your name credit from the top of the code and creates his own version. Wouldn't that be the same concept as copying Marble Blast Gold and making your own mod? He stole some TCP objects from GG forums (not mine) He stole some MP things from GG too, according to Nihahhat (not mine). Codes that are posted to the GG forums are open source, are they not? What's the difference between the GG forums and the MBDK? He stole my demo replay center that is in PR (spoiler) He "supposibly" stole PR's gem radar (spoiler) Don't give him access to your codes? I'm not quite certain how high up in the ranking lists of multiple mods Lamp is involved, but if you're giving code access to -all- of your staff, including those involved in other Marble Blast projects, what were you expecting to happen? ~Aayrl
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Post by Jeff on Nov 10, 2011 21:27:48 GMT
He credited himself when at the top of every single file that I or Higuy created in PR, it always goes as follows:
I.E.:
//----------------------------------------------------------------------------- //JoinMultiplayerGui.gui by Jeff Hutchinson & HiGuy //-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
That clarifies that point.
I dont know GG's rules on that stuff, but I would say w/o giving proper credit to the author, then its "stealing".
3. I gave all my staff access to PR's codes because I thought I could trust them. Appearently not, which is why i am mad. I have talked to him previously before, and he has admitted to me in the past that he has stole, this is not a shocker to me that he just did it again. I wanted to give him a chance, but I guess I learned my lession.
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Post by Jeff on Nov 15, 2011 22:42:15 GMT
cause i never requested it yet, duh.
Please lock.
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